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An Interview with Chi Chavanu Àse
 

BY GREGORY HEDGEPETH

 

Through her Chi The Woke Ratchet platform, which has almost 15,000 followers on Facebook, I’ve been a big fan of Chi’s for a couple years now. When I found out she was working on a book—a science fiction book at that—I couldn’t wait to hear the details. 

Luckily, we were able to connect through a friend of mine (another huge fan of hers) who mentioned Vital Narrative Press when Chi mentioned that she was looking for a Black publishing company to release her first book. When we first discussed the premise over the phone, I was completely blown away and couldn’t wait to put my eyes on it—and once I finally got the chance, it was even better than she initially let on. Within a few months, we were blessed (no pun intended) with the opportunity to publish Journey To Ghana and Other Stories and I am truly honored that she trusted me to help bring it to fruition. As far as the book itself, Chi included so many fascinating characters and captivating elements in these stories with six thought-provoking protagonists who each bring a different component to the overall narrative in a reimagined, post-apocalyptic world.

I got the opportunity to ask her a few questions that dig a little deeper into the book itself as well as some of the thought processes behind each story.


Tell me a little about your book and the world you've created.

Journey To Ghana and Other Stories focuses on the end of the world from a Black experience. To add to this, there are meta humans and monsters who are also trying to survive the end of the world.

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What books, films and TV shows most inform the aesthetic of this book?

I would have to say Octavia E. Butler’s Wild Seed and her Xenogenesis trilogy—but really all of her works.

First edition cover with cover art by John Cayea

First edition cover with cover art by John Cayea

How was the narrative conceptualized? Did it start with an image, a voice, a dilemma or something else?

I was taking an evening walk and passed a white woman who was dressed in all black. My first thought was “what if she was a witch?” That’s how my first story “The Healer” began. “Journey to Ghana” had been swirling around in my head for awhile, I just hadn’t started the actual writing process yet.

How did you develop the settings for this story?

I more or so had themes, and chose settings off those themes. Most of the actual settings were places that meant something to me... like my hometown of Sacramento, CA.

What was the strangest thing you had to do to create this story?

This is an interesting question, because I have to explain how “odd” my thought process is. For example, you might see someone with a bump on their head and think it’s just a bump. I see the same bump and think “This is the beginning of their transition. Soon their body will be covered in spikes.”

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Who are your main characters and give us a few details about what makes them tick.

Each story has a Black woman or girl as the lead. “Journey to Ghana” is told by a 12-year-old girl named Mawusi. She is not like other 12-year-olds, because she has never gotten the opportunity to be a kid. Her entire life has been spent fighting and surviving.

Cover design by MALICIOUZ

Cover design by MALICIOUZ

Which character was the most challenging to create and why?

Most of the characters had an element of my personality, but the two who were furthest from my personality were Mawusi and Compton. Mawusi was difficult, because I was writing from the perspective of a 12-year-old. Compton was difficult, because I was writing from the perspective of someone who had experienced 100 years of depression. It was intense.

Which scene or chapter in the book is your favorite and why?
This is a tough question, because there were so many. If I had to choose one, it would be “LaKiera Jones” and her character reconciling with her transition. She went through so many emotions and still figured things out.

Which scene was most difficult to write and why?

”Belly,” by far, was the most difficult story as a whole. It gave me so much anxiety that I had to leave it alone for over a month and come back to it. It could not be rushed and it forced me to pull from my imagination in ways I did not know I could.

Which scene, character or plotline changed the most from the first draft to the published book?

I’m not sure if “changed” is the most accurate word, but a lot of the characters evolved for sure.

What do you hope readers will take away from this story?

That science fiction is a genre Black people belong in. Our ancestors wrote conceptually about science and religion, and had stories passed down that would align with our views on science fiction. The amount of creativity inside of us is astounding—we just need to write it down.

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Which character are you least likely to get along with?

I’m good with the main characters, but characters like Jakoob would annoy the hell out of me for sure!

What would the main character in your book have to say about you?

This is a funny question, because I have a few main characters. I think in “Journey to Ghana,” I would definitely be seen as an elder or a storyteller.


Chi Chavanu Àse is a science-fiction/fantasy author who was first introduced to sci-fi by her mother at an early age. Often sent to her room for misbehaving, she would curl up in a blanket with one of her mother’s books which subsequently ignited the spark that would fuel her love for literature. She initially began writing and performing poetry at the age of twelve. Over time, she began to notice how difficult it was to find books that she could associate or identify with the characters, given the lack of representation. Thus, it became her greatest desire that little Black children would see themselves represented in every genre, especially sci-fi. Her first book, Journey to Ghana and Other Stories, focuses entirely on the Black experience. Likewise, it is her desire to continue writing stories and producing literary work that Black people can see themselves represented in. Chi currently resides in California with her fine-ass husband and amazing children.

Searching For The One
 

BY CHI CHAVANU ÀSE

 
Cover image by goranmax from Pixabay. Cover art by Gregory Hedgepeth.

Cover image by goranmax from Pixabay. Cover art by Gregory Hedgepeth.

Third apartment on this floor and all hopes of finding her were fading away. I walked through a wall and sat on a couch. Well, this was a nice apartment. Lots of African art and it smelled of incense.

I looked around for the remote. Since I had no hopes of finding “the one,” I might as well get comfy. I wondered if they had potato chips. They didn’t have any on my earth. I had barely picked up the remote to turn it from an outrageous reality TV show, when a girl came around the corner from the kitchen.

She dropped her plate. “What the hell are you doing in my house?”

I was equally as shocked. “You can see me?”

She looked confused. “Of course I can—did you think you were invisible? I’m calling the cops! You can’t just break into people’s houses and sit on their couch. Weirdo.”

I had found “the one.” I smiled as my fangs grew. Now it was time to fight.


Chi Chavanu Ase is a science-fiction/fantasy author who was first introduced to sci-fi by her mother at an early age. Often sent to her room for misbehaving, she would curl up in a blanket with one of her mother’s books which subsequently ignited the spark that would fuel her love for literature. She initially began writing and performing poetry at the age of twelve. Over time, she began to notice how difficult it was to find books that she could associate or identify with the characters, given the lack of representation. Thus, it became her greatest desire that little Black children would see themselves represented in every genre, especially sci-fi. Her first book, Journey to Ghana and Other Stories, focuses entirely on the Black experience. Likewise, it is her desire to continue writing stories and producing literary work that Black people can see themselves represented in. Chi currently resides in California with her fine-ass husband and amazing children.

My Favorite Books
 

BY CHI CHAVANU ÀSE

 

Most of these books were introduced to me by my mother. She would grab books by Black women authors even if she did have time to read them, because she wanted to make sure she supported their art.


The Wild Seed Trilogy by Octavia E. Butler

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WILD SEED was my first introduction to science fiction from a Black experience. The book focuses on a Black shape shifter who transcended time.
— Chi Chavanu Àse
 

The Coldest Winter Ever by Sister Souljah

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Every Black teenage girl around my age read this book, and for good reason. I wanted to be Winter so bad. Even with the painful ending.
— Chi Chavanu Àse
 

Sula by Toni Morrison

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SULA, like MAMA, was a book I probably shouldn’t have been reading at 12. It deals with adult themes surrounding resilience and friendship.
— Chi Chavanu Àse
 

Meridian by Alice Walker

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I do not even know how to explain this one. MERIDIAN was a subtle book that impacted me due to the carefree nature of the main character.
— Chi Chavanu Àse
 

Sweat by Zora Neale Hurston

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“Sweat” was the ultimate revenge in a domestic violence situation, and is one of my favorite short stories of all time!
— Chi Chavanu Àse
 

Mama by Terry McMillan

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MAMA was one of my favorite books by McMillan and really showed her literary range as an author.
— Chi Chavanu Àse
 

Assata: An Autobiography by Assata Shakur

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This book changed my life. My mom was already raising a budding revolutionary and this book sealed the deal.
— Chi Chavanu Àse
 
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Koontz was the only white author that I cared for. I was introduced to him as a kid, by another kid. He is listed as a murder mystery type of author, but he has multiple science fiction themes throughout his collection.
— Chi Chavanu Àse

Chi Chavanu Àse is a science-fiction/fantasy author who was first introduced to sci-fi by her mother at an early age. Often sent to her room for misbehaving, she would curl up in a blanket with one of her mother’s books which subsequently ignited the spark that would fuel her love for literature. She initially began writing and performing poetry at the age of twelve. Over time, she began to notice how difficult it was to find books that she could associate or identify with the characters, given the lack of representation. Thus, it became her greatest desire that little Black children would see themselves represented in every genre, especially sci-fi. Her first book, Journey to Ghana and Other Stories, focuses entirely on the Black experience. Likewise, it is her desire to continue writing stories and producing literary work that Black people can see themselves represented in. Chi currently resides in California with her fine-ass husband and amazing children.

Living Behind The Mask
 

BY CHI CHAVANU ÀSE

 
Cover image by R Nau from Pixabay. Cover art by Gregory Hedgepeth.

Cover image by R Nau from Pixabay. Cover art by Gregory Hedgepeth.

Each day with him was becoming increasingly more difficult. Even food tasted different. There was a grey film that seemed to sit over my eyes. And no matter how hard I tried, I couldn’t rub it away. He had put off having kids for another year. Typical. He wasn’t ready to die yet. As soon as I gave birth to multiples, I would kill him.

I had to maintain the facade of a good housewife with a loving husband who took care of me. Meanwhile in the Blessed world, I was one of the most terrifying creatures. My form tripled the size of my husband and my power knew no limits. I had no code. I killed both regs and Blessed alike. My hunger was growing and my husband knew his end was near. He kept claiming he was prolonging things, so he could build a savings for me and the children. Bullshit.

He had gotten comfortable in his human life and wasn’t ready to give it up, but I was suffering. I was supposed to have given birth at least five years ago and my body was changing for not having done so. He knew this. A part of me felt that he hoped I would die first, but that wasn’t going to happen—I would mate with another if I had to.

The hardest part of all was the mask I wore as a reg. I was what people called a “trophy wife.” I was slender with smooth dark skin and locs that went down to the middle of my back. When we attended his work events, he received praise off my presence alone. I cooked, cleaned, and did everything I was supposed to do. I even did all my hunting at night. I was absolutely perfect.

Why won’t he mate with me? Why won’t he uphold his end of the bargain? I felt myself sinking deeper and deeper into a hole. I should be raising my offspring by now, not tending to this fool. It was time for him to die.


Chi Chavanu Ase is a science-fiction/fantasy author who was first introduced to sci-fi by her mother at an early age. Often sent to her room for misbehaving, she would curl up in a blanket with one of her mother’s books which subsequently ignited the spark that would fuel her love for literature. She initially began writing and performing poetry at the age of twelve. Over time, she began to notice how difficult it was to find books that she could associate or identify with the characters, given the lack of representation. Thus, it became her greatest desire that little Black children would see themselves represented in every genre, especially sci-fi. Her first book, Journey to Ghana and Other Stories, focuses entirely on the Black experience. Likewise, it is her desire to continue writing stories and producing literary work that Black people can see themselves represented in. Chi currently resides in California with her fine-ass husband and amazing children.

Fantasy Film Casting for 'Journey To Ghana and Other Stories'
 

BY CHI CHAVANU ÀSE

 

It's no secret that books are often turned into movies. Keeping that in mind, we asked Chi who she'd select to be part of the cast if given the opportunity to turn her novel, Journey To Ghana and Other Stories, into a feature film and why these actresses would be perfect to fill those roles.

 

Samira Wiley as Britt in “The Healer”

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Samira Wiley is an amazing actress, but she’s also queer and married to a woman. I think it is important for queer characters to be played by queer actors and actresses.

 

Issa Rae as Nzinga in “Belly”

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Issa Rae is physically ideal for this role and she’s a magnificent actress. I think she would be able to bring out the depth of confusion for Nzinga as she discovers the intensity of her situation.

 

Danielle Brooks as Compton in “A Witch Named Compton”

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I enjoyed Danielle on Orange Is The New Black and I think she would contribute well to playing Compton. In addition, she is stunning and physically ideal for this role.

 

Danai Gurira as Nanyamaka in “Journey To Ghana”

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Danai’s acting style would fit in perfectly with the Nanyamaka I envisioned. She is physically stunning and a serious actress who is also superb at the fight scenes that would be required for her role.

 

Kyla Pratt as LaKiera in “LaKiera Jones”

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Kyla Pratt is a seasoned actress who would do great with LaKiera. I have not seen her in any serious roles since she became an adult, but I think she could tackle the complexity of this character.

 

Eris Baker as Mawusi in “Journey to Ghana”

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Eris is an up-and-coming child actress, who would play a formidable Mawusi. Mawusi’s character is as complicated as she is brilliant, and Eris would be able to portray her character effortlessly.


Chi Chavanu Ase is a science-fiction/fantasy author who was first introduced to sci-fi by her mother at an early age. Often sent to her room for misbehaving, she would curl up in a blanket with one of her mother’s books which subsequently ignited the spark that would fuel her love for literature. She initially began writing and performing poetry at the age of twelve. Over time, she began to notice how difficult it was to find books that she could associate or identify with the characters, given the lack of representation. Thus, it became her greatest desire that little Black children would see themselves represented in every genre, especially sci-fi. Her first book, Journey to Ghana and Other Stories, focuses entirely on the Black experience. Likewise, it is her desire to continue writing stories and producing literary work that Black people can see themselves represented in. Chi currently resides in California with her fine-ass husband and amazing children.